November 21, 2000: This feed interview with the 4 horsemen of the usapocalypse (+ jeff) is a really fun, quick read (and gets extra points for mentioning the Atari 400, although of course I had the Atari 800, which was way cooler because it had 48k instead of like 16 or something and a real keyboard, so there).

But the thing I wanted to point out, which I absolutely agree with, is this line from Don Norman:

... usability people are not designers -- that until we become designers, nobody cares about us. What we are good at is pointing out flaws after somebody else has designed it, which makes us not very interesting and not very relevant.

Hence my (no longer) secret tagline: "Design is Interaction."